FWIW I already take these vitamins daily, along with magnesium, zinc, copper, folate, manganese, boron, St. John’s Wort, Ashwagandha, Tumeric, SAM-e, Saffron, Kratom, Ginko Baloba, L-theanine, along with a nightly dose of Valerian Root, L-Tryptophan, lemon balm extract, 5-HTP, and 500+ mg of a high THC extract, and I’m still tired and miserable all the time.
Even walking 20k+ steps a day at my job isn’t enough. I’ve never been healthier and more depressed. Tried therapy for a decade but gave up when I couldn’t find a single therapist I can relate with. Not even pharmaceuticals helped me. I’ve accepted the fact that I am just going to be perpetually tired and miserable for the rest of my life and there’s nothing anyone can do to help.
(FWIW I don’t take kratom daily. Only at work. And the dosage of THC can range from as low as 100mg all the way up to a full gram of pure THC distillate. Yes these are accurate numbers. I live in a legal state and can get distillate for $5/g. I have a high tolerance and don’t get high anymore; just sleepy. If I don’t have any THC in my system, I can’t sleep at all no matter how tired I am. The insomnia was hell until I discovered weed in my 20s).
My sibling in science, I have consumed enough weed in my life to earn me an approving nod from Snoop himself, but on the off chance you’re not shitposting:
500mg is entirely too much for a nighttime dose. You are not getting any proper REM sleep at all if you’re actually doing this to yourself every night. Take a fuckin T-break man.
It’s a very common sign of addiction to try every supplement under the sun instead of just addressing the cessation of substance abuse because that’s a much more challenging hill to climb.
This is correct. I only got this far into the drugs and suppliments because existence was nothing but pain before I discovered everything I currently take over the course of several decades. At least now I’m at a level where I can hold down a job. Before I started taking all this shit, I was a NEET well into my 30s. But now I have a wife and a mortgage and a job. Still miserable but it’s progress.
Honestly I think it’s most likely that you’re simply overworked. (many/most people are)
I think that being overworked, together with emotional instability/lack of security, are the most prevalent causes of mental illnesses in our society today. It’s no “chemical imbalance in your brain” story. Sure, there’s chemical imbalance, but where does that imbalance come from? I guess it’s mostly that our bodies aren’t built for today’s demands.
It can be but you should Tay away from stuff that isn’t just ground root powder as the “supplements” people sell that contain it can lead to liver damage over time, however the only cases of liver damage with ashwaghanda afaik are from extracts and gummies and shit.
Thanks for this. I don’t feel like it doesn’t do much for me anyway compared to the other shit I take so I will probably eliminate it from my suppliment routine.
I don’t even believe they took 0.5g of THC, that’s an insane amount. Unless they mean over a long period of time. The standard dose you can buy is 10mg.
It’s not insane for heavy users - they sell 1g brownies in dispensaries, these days. That being said, it’s neither cheap nor is there any debate of it being a medicine at that level. Dude’s just getting blasted every day and wondering why he’s tired
Is that actually 1g of pure THC, or is that like the weight of the extract or something? I can’t imagine the tolerance you would need, any normal person would be passed out for an entire day taking that.
Oh it’s completely doable to take 1000mg+ as I have literally when I was depressed cause I used to make brownie batches with 14g~ of dabs for 9 brownies which is about 1240mg per brownie after accounting for it being 80% thc
One time my mom took one of my edibles when I wasn’t around and was literally high for 2 days straight… she takes a 2.5mg normally whereas mine were 100mgs
I buy 2g carts from the dispensary for $10/pop and break them open to extract the distillate. Then I scoop up a quarter of what I extracted and eat it. So $20 will last me over a week and it knocks me the hell out.
Have you tried having a sleep study done? Sometimes your body can go through the sleep cycles weird, or they get interupted resulting in being really tired all the time. A sleep specialist can see what’s going on and help you fix it.
But my experience: I haven’t had a good night’s sleep in 10 years (wake up and am half-asleep, half-awake most of the night). I went to a sleep study, did the sleep-in-hospital-with-electrodes-everywhere thing, met with three doctors in series after, and their conclusion was that I should sleep more. I wish I was joking.
Did you take their advice? I’m regrettably a person who needs more like 9 to 10 hours of sleep, which is great because I love sleeping, but terrible because I love doing stuff.
Try hiking a couple of days, better a week. I’m serious: Actually being outside for the whole day re-calibrates the circadian rhythm, and actually being active before going to bed makes sleeping way easier. Just don’t make the mistake of setting yourself kilometre goals.
Ugh. Sometimes I think drs just say “it’s all in your head” as an easy way to handwave people out the door. They get paid regardless if they solve your problem or not. I’m sorry that happened to you. If you aren’t sleeping well that’s an issue. Any sleep specialist worth their salt knows this.
It took me about 10 years to get my diagnosis so I feel this. If you have the means maybe seek out a different sleep specialist and do a second test under that one. It’s frustrating that to need to do that, but unfortunately that’s what it comes to when you run into asshole doctors who don’t care, don’t bother listen, or just assume your a moron and your suffering is your own doing.
Best luck to you! I hope you get it figured out and find some relief soon
That’s why I added if you have the means, I absolutely understand if you don’t. I just had a tooth extracted that was overdue by a few years. Just didn’t have the money to get it filled before it cracked in half and I was in excruciating pain for months. I get it.
Maybe try a community health center if you have one near you? They usually do a sliding scale and can make referrals to doctors who work with uninsured or under-insured people. That’s how I got my tooth taken care of without being thousands in debt after. Just google “community health centers near 'name of town & state.” That is if you feel like pursuing it. Totally get it if you don’t, but the above info can help with other health related issues too.
Either way, I hope even a little of that info is helpful to you. I fucking hate healthcare that’s useless AND expensive. Wishing you the best.
FWIW I already take these vitamins daily, along with magnesium, zinc, copper, folate, manganese, boron, St. John’s Wort, Ashwagandha, Tumeric, SAM-e, Saffron, Kratom, Ginko Baloba, L-theanine, along with a nightly dose of Valerian Root, L-Tryptophan, lemon balm extract, 5-HTP, and 500+ mg of a high THC extract, and I’m still tired and miserable all the time.
Even walking 20k+ steps a day at my job isn’t enough. I’ve never been healthier and more depressed. Tried therapy for a decade but gave up when I couldn’t find a single therapist I can relate with. Not even pharmaceuticals helped me. I’ve accepted the fact that I am just going to be perpetually tired and miserable for the rest of my life and there’s nothing anyone can do to help.
(FWIW I don’t take kratom daily. Only at work. And the dosage of THC can range from as low as 100mg all the way up to a full gram of pure THC distillate. Yes these are accurate numbers. I live in a legal state and can get distillate for $5/g. I have a high tolerance and don’t get high anymore; just sleepy. If I don’t have any THC in my system, I can’t sleep at all no matter how tired I am. The insomnia was hell until I discovered weed in my 20s).
My sibling in science, I have consumed enough weed in my life to earn me an approving nod from Snoop himself, but on the off chance you’re not shitposting:
500mg is entirely too much for a nighttime dose. You are not getting any proper REM sleep at all if you’re actually doing this to yourself every night. Take a fuckin T-break man.
Maybe cut out the THC? It’s a depressant.
I think this person is on the opposite end and is overwhelming him/herself with too much supplements…
It’s a very common sign of addiction to try every supplement under the sun instead of just addressing the cessation of substance abuse because that’s a much more challenging hill to climb.
You don’t think they started out tired all the time with no supplements and then slowly added them to try it out?
This is correct. I only got this far into the drugs and suppliments because existence was nothing but pain before I discovered everything I currently take over the course of several decades. At least now I’m at a level where I can hold down a job. Before I started taking all this shit, I was a NEET well into my 30s. But now I have a wife and a mortgage and a job. Still miserable but it’s progress.
Honestly I think it’s most likely that you’re simply overworked. (many/most people are)
I think that being overworked, together with emotional instability/lack of security, are the most prevalent causes of mental illnesses in our society today. It’s no “chemical imbalance in your brain” story. Sure, there’s chemical imbalance, but where does that imbalance come from? I guess it’s mostly that our bodies aren’t built for today’s demands.
500+ mg THC? That’s a lot.
And he doesn’t understand why he’s always tired
Makes me wonder if it was a typo, but even 50+ mg is quite a bit.
Only at night and I have a high tolerance
I think ashwaganda is not supposed to be taken daily long term
It can be but you should Tay away from stuff that isn’t just ground root powder as the “supplements” people sell that contain it can lead to liver damage over time, however the only cases of liver damage with ashwaghanda afaik are from extracts and gummies and shit.
Thanks for this. I don’t feel like it doesn’t do much for me anyway compared to the other shit I take so I will probably eliminate it from my suppliment routine.
Kratom is not a health supplement.
Nor is pot. This guy is abusing drugs and asking why he’s depressed.
I don’t even believe they took 0.5g of THC, that’s an insane amount. Unless they mean over a long period of time. The standard dose you can buy is 10mg.
It’s not insane for heavy users - they sell 1g brownies in dispensaries, these days. That being said, it’s neither cheap nor is there any debate of it being a medicine at that level. Dude’s just getting blasted every day and wondering why he’s tired
Is that actually 1g of pure THC, or is that like the weight of the extract or something? I can’t imagine the tolerance you would need, any normal person would be passed out for an entire day taking that.
Oh it’s completely doable to take 1000mg+ as I have literally when I was depressed cause I used to make brownie batches with 14g~ of dabs for 9 brownies which is about 1240mg per brownie after accounting for it being 80% thc
One time my mom took one of my edibles when I wasn’t around and was literally high for 2 days straight… she takes a 2.5mg normally whereas mine were 100mgs
I buy 2g carts from the dispensary for $10/pop and break them open to extract the distillate. Then I scoop up a quarter of what I extracted and eat it. So $20 will last me over a week and it knocks me the hell out.
I know but it’s the only way I can feel joy. Before I discovered kratom I never knew what it felt like to smile.
FWIW I only take it on the days really need it (so basically only at work).
Have you tried having a sleep study done? Sometimes your body can go through the sleep cycles weird, or they get interupted resulting in being really tired all the time. A sleep specialist can see what’s going on and help you fix it.
I’m all for people trying, so agree with this.
But my experience: I haven’t had a good night’s sleep in 10 years (wake up and am half-asleep, half-awake most of the night). I went to a sleep study, did the sleep-in-hospital-with-electrodes-everywhere thing, met with three doctors in series after, and their conclusion was that I should sleep more. I wish I was joking.
Did you take their advice? I’m regrettably a person who needs more like 9 to 10 hours of sleep, which is great because I love sleeping, but terrible because I love doing stuff.
Sure, when I can, but the issue is I’m in bed for 8 hours and getting 4-5 hours of sleep…
Try hiking a couple of days, better a week. I’m serious: Actually being outside for the whole day re-calibrates the circadian rhythm, and actually being active before going to bed makes sleeping way easier. Just don’t make the mistake of setting yourself kilometre goals.
Ugh. Sometimes I think drs just say “it’s all in your head” as an easy way to handwave people out the door. They get paid regardless if they solve your problem or not. I’m sorry that happened to you. If you aren’t sleeping well that’s an issue. Any sleep specialist worth their salt knows this.
It took me about 10 years to get my diagnosis so I feel this. If you have the means maybe seek out a different sleep specialist and do a second test under that one. It’s frustrating that to need to do that, but unfortunately that’s what it comes to when you run into asshole doctors who don’t care, don’t bother listen, or just assume your a moron and your suffering is your own doing.
Best luck to you! I hope you get it figured out and find some relief soon
Who’s going to pay for it? I don’t have the thousands to fork over for a sleep study.
That’s why I added if you have the means, I absolutely understand if you don’t. I just had a tooth extracted that was overdue by a few years. Just didn’t have the money to get it filled before it cracked in half and I was in excruciating pain for months. I get it.
Maybe try a community health center if you have one near you? They usually do a sliding scale and can make referrals to doctors who work with uninsured or under-insured people. That’s how I got my tooth taken care of without being thousands in debt after. Just google “community health centers near 'name of town & state.” That is if you feel like pursuing it. Totally get it if you don’t, but the above info can help with other health related issues too.
Either way, I hope even a little of that info is helpful to you. I fucking hate healthcare that’s useless AND expensive. Wishing you the best.