from the be-the-stasi-you-wish-to-see-in-the-world dept

  • merlin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    3 days ago

    Damn don’t get me wrong I’m against hate speech but government is not the one to decide what is hate speech and what is not that’s how a democracy is destroyed.

    • peppermintprince@sopuli.xyz
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      3 days ago

      The government didn’t decide that though, courts do. As long as that still holds, that’s exactly how democracies are not destroyed, isnt it? I think, German law enforcement may be overstepping their boundaries in these cases and for example in the case of Andy Grote mentioned in the article, the actions taken were actually ruled to have been illegal (in court). Honestly seems more like a democracy doing democracy things.

      • merlin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        3 days ago

        These kind of laws are gonna get used against political dissent and rivals by the government. It’s so obvious honestly if you can’t see it then I don’t know what to say

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          Yes, I think this is what we’re gonna see. Even more so once the far right takes power. They will use the anti-hate speech laws against their creators because they are easy to abuse.

        • peppermintprince@sopuli.xyz
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          What I’m referring to by “government” is the executive branch. This might be a difference in languages and/or political systems, but that’s what is commonly referred to in Germany by “government”. This excludes the judiciary branch and therefore the courts.

          • Umbrias@beehaw.org
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            it might be a difference of language but it’s important to recognize that courts are part of your system of governance regardless of the words you use to describe it, and are subject to most of the same incentives and corrupting influences, and some thatare unique to courts.