ive heard proton is good but its weird it doesn:t work with private browsers i turned on javascript and webgl aand it still doesnt work tuta just doesnt let me in bc of the browser its tor and up to date
say if its free freenium cheap or expensive and if it can be paid for anonymously and if you can make aliases
also your favorite roblox piggy character becuse idk
Posteo (based in Berlin)
Job. I job for email.
I use Proton but now I think if I’m gonna send mails to a Gmail anyway, there’s no much difference except for the subscription ones not being scanned. And for those sites that I have to enter an email, I use addy.io alias or Firefox relay.
I use mailbox.org because both proton and tuta do not support IMAP, which is generally needed to use a 3rd party client. Mailbox.org is also pretty cheap and is pretty private as far as the non-E2EE providers go. And in terms of E2EE it is going to be used so rarely that is basically doesn’t matter, the type of person that would use tuta/proton would probably be willing to setup PGP with you, and E-mail isn’t a secure communications platform anyways, so you might as well just use Signal, XMPP, briar, etc…
I use mailbox.org because both proton and tuta do not support IMAP, which is generally needed to use a 3rd party client.
I don’t want to have to use their stupid little bloated software just to send and read E-mails in a client of my choosing.
I suspect their encryption scheme falls outside the SMTP/IMAP protocols hence the requirement for an application to decrypt/encrypt the message before being delivered to and from your desired email reader.
Thunderbird doesn’t know how to decrypt/encrypt an email if it isn’t given the tools to do so 🤷♂️
I recently got Stalwart running with Bulwark as the front end to actually send emails. I have Stalwart behind Caddy for https and Stalwart only exposes http because I don’t want to mess with pop and imap. Instead I have it using JMAP, which Bulwark is designed for, because it’s simpler and more secure. Receiving emails works from some basic testing against my personal Gmail account. Sending email was a bit more complicated, but I ended up using SMTP2GO for outgoing mail and it worked in aforementioned testing. Their free tier is more than enough for personal email and I can switch to a different smtp relay in the future if I choose to.
i use disroot mail. https://disroot.org/
No encryption. Fuck yes.
Where does it say no encryption? The email section said it uses TLS when emails are sent outbound.
Stored unencrypted on their server
Your correspondence? Our correspondence, comrade. 😂
Doesn’t the website say you can encrypt it youself and actually recommends doing so or something like that?
Mailbox.org is decent. But 1€ per month. I need to switch my stuff to it and pay before the trial ends.
Nobody mentioned Posteo…
i tried it i dont have anything to say yet
Huh, surprised nobody has mentioned Tuta Mail yet. Cheap monthly and annual plans, hosted Ex-US.
Plus I have a domain, forwarded through my tutamail account, so I have unlimited email receiving addresses, at-will. :)
No fascism, no privacy violations. I’m annoyed they don’t support external clients and the mail rules are fairly limiting, but for my purposes it’s well worth the costs.
Built in calendar also can import ICS files and it has effectively replaced Gcal for my own personal private use.
Infinite aliases are great. I have an address for every company, and that keeps my inbox very clean and tidy. If one of them turns out to sell my address to spammers, I will know exactly who to blame. It’s also trivial to set up a rule for deleting everything that is sent to that address.
Yes!
Domain forwarding with a wild card should work with nearly any email provider vendor worth their salt, but I was glad to find Tuta does exactly two things and does them reasonably well, and at a price I can accept.
Degoogling has been a two year journey and I’m about 90% of the way done, but only my legacy email are driving me back to Thunderbird on select systems and someday I’ll get to actually delete my entire Google account.
Tuta (Germany) and Murena Workspace are good mail providers. Murena (France) apart is an excelent all in one substitute for GDrive and other Google services. They also sell Fairphone with own OS (eOS)
I hate those kind of tables companies provide because of course ot’s always biased on their favour, practically useless for that matter tbh.
Maybe, but it’s really what Murena offers, + own Mobile OS and also Smartphones by FairPhone, even a special OS for kids, it’s a whole good infrastructure, not only a mailprovider. All European and OpenSource. It’s way more as offered by others, apart of Google. I didn’t find a better service to substitute Google.
Murena Dashboard
Ah, that’s really cool!
Postfix and dovecot on a server stuffed under the stairs.
Grab a spare Raspberry Pi, plug an SSD into it, follow this guide, once every few months ssh in and
apt update && apt upgrade.That’s been my setup for nearly 7 years now. It’s been flawless, no deliverability issues, no maintinance headaches, just email that I own.
Fastmail 👍 Well worth the bucks imo. Super well thought out UI, private, and they work towards jmap over imap.
5Eyes for anyone reading.
Fastmail here too, including running email addresses for kids and parents. Love the UI, easy to use.
I use proton myself. I dont know about private browsers but it works with Thunderbird via its own decryption app Proton Bridge. Thats a good privacy solution (assuming its a secure desktop), and gives you a local backup of your email.
Mainly ignore it till someone calls me and asks “did you see that email?”
I run my email out of my closet. Postfix/Dovecot, using Mutt as my client.
Have you found it to be reliable? Online discussions around e-mail servers point to potential deliverability issues, so I was wondering about your experience with it.
Have a home server, and I’ve been considering self-hosting my e-mail. At least as an experiment, if it turns out to be inconsistent.
Yes, it’s been very reliable. IME, the vast majority of people who complain about deliverability issues are
spammersmarketers. They set up their own servers, send out a bunch ofspamnewsletters, then complain that they get marked as spam. I don’t have much sympathy for them.Of course, I’m not saying that it never happens to legitimate email, but IME, that is increasingly rare, especially after setting up DKIM, SPF, and the like.
It also gets better over time as your IP gains a better reputation.
what does that mean
It means I have an old desktop in my closet, that I use to manage my own email. Here’s an example on what it takes to set it up: https://linuxvox.com/blog/install-and-configure-postfix-and-dovecot/
http://www.mutt.org/ is how I browse, manage, and send my email
wow
