• elgordofordo86@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I’ve raised quite a few farm animals. They don’t have an urge to live. My goodness do they take every chance to get themselves killed…

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        1 year ago

        Is it still anecdotal if literally any farmer will tell you the same? Because they will.

        A surprisingly large amount of effort goes into trying to keep the livestock from hurting themselves or getting themselves killed. That’s inevitable when essentially turn off natural selection, they end up losing any sense of self preservation. And why not, they do have multiple humans who’s entire career centers on keeping them alive until they’re ready for slaughter.

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          enslaved animals try to commit suicide after being forcefully impregnated and kicked around and having their children stolen from them immediately after birth

          wow i fucking wonder why dude

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            They live more comfortably than you do. In an environment literally designed to maximize their ability to grow.

            Y’all continually fail to understand that farmers have a direct financial incentive to keep these animals happy and healthy. Stressed animals don’t grow nearly as well as happy animals, and small animals don’t make money.

            Taking proper care of the animals is more profitable in the long run, even if you assume that all farmers are heartless monsters who enjoy watching needless suffering (we aren’t by the way).

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              we spend a lot of time trying to stop our animals from committing suicide

              they’re happy! they love it here actually and you are jealous.

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                1 year ago

                Just like how parents spend most of their time preventing their toddlers from committing suicide.

                They’re stupid, not suicidal.

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        They are hearty for sure and that can be seen as an urge or will to live. Animals are dumb and have a shocking lack of self preservation. Are you talking about conscious ‘I want to live, I better not do that’ or ‘I will find a way to live in my circumstances’?