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    We did this with all sorts of fucking Nazis. We were far too kind and should have hung a fuck of a lot more of them.

    Same thing goes for the fucking slavers after their failed rebellion.

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        Killing Nazis and slavers is justice. The fact that Robert E Lee and Jefferson Davis outlived Lincoln is a travesty.

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          Or we could try to be more civilized.

          It’s easy for someone who isn’t a victim of a capital or war crime to say, that the death penalty should be ostracized.

          That makes my respect for Robert Badinter even greater:

          His father was captured in the 1943 Rue Sainte-Catherine Roundup and deported with other Jews to the Sobibor extermination camp, where he was murdered shortly thereafter.

          Robert Badinter (French pronunciation: [ʁɔbɛʁ badɛ̃tɛʁ]; 30 March 1928 – 9 February 2024) was a French lawyer, politician, and author who enacted the abolition of the death penalty in France in 1981.

          I know this is a polarising topic. So I don’t expect you to agree with me on this. The other way around… same. So let’s just look at it as exchange of point of views. You show me your heroes, I show you mine.

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          denazification

          Not an exact match but good enough: Hagen Rether about spinal cord racism

          Sorry, I’m not able to find a good English transcription. Basically what he says is: Fear of the foreign, the fear of the others outside of our group is imprinted into our reptile brain. It may have been an evolutionary advantage back then to keep your tribe together and your gene pool alive. And it’s still in all of us.
          If you act on this, you just show a lack of culture and education. It’s normal to know that fear/ that impulse but then the thought: Wait a moment, that’s my spinal cord talking, I should use my neo cortex has to show up. It’s important to take that step.

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        No, it is a response to make the world a better place. By allowing slaver officers to live, despite what our laws said, we allowed them to spin the lost cause narrative and take away all the hard won rights that freedmen achieved. We still suffer as a society from that horrible oversight. Think about how things would be different if black people had political and economic rights for the past 150 years.

        The same can be said about allowing nazi and Japanese war criminals to live. In many instances, they also took back power and continued to do damage to our world.

        They should have all died like Mussolini.

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            I’d say the officers and politicians. Nazi officers and politicians are bad people. Slaver officers and politicians are evil people. Those power structures needed to be destroyed and the alive people propagated evil systems. You are the one doing the whole slippery slope bullshit.

            Without the officer class of the confederates we wouldn’t have had the KKK or Jim Crow. The lands that the enslaved folk worked should have been given to the people who worked the lands.