Lemmy try: !internetisbeautiful@lemmy.ml

PS: works 😁

I visit some subs occasionally on old reddit, but have never logged in again. Fuck u/spez.

Because he used his money to turn a townsquare into truthsocial 2.0 and now is paying trolls to stoke division. He is not a good actor.

PS: just to be more explicit: there are amoral people who screw you over without even noticing it, that’s how the game was set up, ok. But that is not what Elon is doing. This guy went out of his fucking way and took a loss to ruin a platform for everyone. Think about that. Imagine going out of your way to hurt yourself so you can hurt others more. And this guy says he wants to manage a Mars colony and lead humanity into the future. Please, Jesus, no.

Knoppix in 2nd year at Uni. It made me more productive because there were few distractions from programming. So zen.

Great examples there, particularly firefox. The moral here is that there is no black-and-white or even a spectrum from community to corporate, but a set of incentive structures from the bottom to the top that are set up to maximize the likelihood that a product will reach its originally desired behaviour towards the community or the investors.

Meta: this post needs to be a community.

E.g. Wikipedia is community-driven because people contribute individually without a lot of coordination and without anybody telling contributors what to do, same for game mods. I guess by “corporate-driven” you mean there is a hierarchy and people whose job it is to do what management says e.g. Wikipedia foundation runs the infrastructure that hosts the community content and the same for most games. I’m not sure I’d call it “corporate driven” unless it has board members and investors demanding a profit such that they influence the decisions downstream, like reddit.

Don’t inspire fear or disgust, that’s the basics.

Karma still exists even when you don’t see the number, because it is used to sort posts in some way (by number or upvote percentage). Upvotes are important information to the community in principle.

It’s not so much a dark pattern, but an emergent property of the upvote system: usually the first commenters tended to have an advantage and late good comments actually would never get enough exposure to float to the top.

Karma farmers would just sit at “new”, spam comments and get visibility for joke and outrage comments.

The solution may be to randomly order comments below a certain threshold and/or within an upvote range.

I was gonna say that I never expected or wanted lemmy/mastodon to become mainstream anyway, far from it. And like dual-booting linux and windows, there are just some things I won’t abdicate in favour of convenience or having more followers/software or being on a platform with more market power.

But you know what, it’s a spectrum, from the volunteer/libre-heavy to the hideous proprietary tyrannies:

??? > FOSS > wikipedia > reddit > google > microsoft > twitter > facebook > ???

Maybe if we are able to accommodate a large fraction of the mod community of reddit and let the flexibility of federated diversity and “3rd-party apps” flourish against facebook’s top-down approach we might create a wikipedia-like oasis…

But probably not, because there is too much money to make in appmaking rather than written content creation.

But why do the current lemmy instances have to die if facebook decides to make ActivityPub+goldextra? We’ll just stay on our branch, maybe lose a few users who should know better. Facebook isn’t even making use of ActivityPub’s federation anyway, which is why we are here.

I’m actually afraid that they won’t defederate at some point but find some way to track the activities of the federated servers.

Yea, I like space exploration, in-game economies, but not so much the mindless grind.

Yea, Eve was fun for a day or 2, then got more boring than an actual job. Another one is Don’t starve together in my opinion. No Man’s sky is getting there too, with every planet looking nearly the same while pretending to be different, while your chore is to constantly fix your deadbeat ship.

It’s ok, by ruined I mean it will be just like reddit 😉 nothing will have been lost, considering.

I’m justs enjoying what we have for a fleeting summer of joy, before zuck, gptbot floods and federation fracturing inevitably ruin everything again :/

Fuck, at this rate profanity and spelling mistakes are going to start becoming a badge of honor.

Yes, this is the solution. Each user needs to know a certain critical number of other users in person who they can trust (and trust that they won’t lie about bots, like u/spez) in order for there to be a mesh of trust where you can verify if any user is human in a max of 6 hops.

tl;dr: if you have no real-life friends…it’s all bots :P

It was before I scrolled down. After reading the other comments, I’m now at 80% (still) 😅

Oh, that’s slightly troubling … eheh 😅