slackware followed by red hat mothers day 2.0 also used LMDE for several years

Agreed. As I say blender is less fast on amd. Atm

I don’t play games much. 0ad being the main exception.

But yeah I’d never advise a non blender user to go Nvidia.

Yeah. Unfortunately blender is still noticably faster on Nvidia cards. Due to cuda and optic support.

I only have a 4060 though. Next time I upgrade, give. How bad the 50s release is. I will look again and compare higher end amd stuff. Likely a few years away though.

i been linux only for over 30 years now.

I tend to use Debian stable. At least for the last 15 or so.

The reason is simple. I use it as my main PC and the stability is my main priority.

The only negative is software in the repos is often out of date.

But honestly while that was a pain in the past. Now for the vast majority of things I use. I find flat pack or appimage downloads work perfect ally.

The only exception is ham radio software. Here I tend to compile later versions if I need/want them.

Other negatives

I’m really not hugely into gaming. But use blender a lot. Due to this I use Nvidia cards as they are far better supported by blender.

Installing the proprietary Nvidia drivers is a bit of a pain on Debian for newbies. But once you know the process its simple enough. Just not obvious for beginners. The community drivers are still very limited thanks to Nvidia s weird ideas.

Nice to meet a fellow old fart linux user.

Yep, there are ways to do a full installation onto a thumb drive.

While It’s not exactly complex. It does tend to require more understanding of how file system mounting works than the audience OP is indicating would have.

It is likely time to create a user/id10t friendly app designed to download and fully install any ISO as a live thumb drive.

That will still need some help for odd hardware. But for most it would be a fair option.

Go get drunk. You deserve it.

Back in my much older days, people used newsgroups/email/ and before that, magazines to work out how to use windows.

You guys that grew up with the windows’ dominance, forget all you actually had to learn. You think of windows like riding a bike. Not because of windows design. But because you have been doing it all your life and learned the stuff when you were freshly minded and quick to learn.

I’m not opposed to AI. Although atm it can get shit wrong more often then other sources so care is required.

But please stop thinking your need to learn is a Linux issue. Rather than a complex system issue. .

Well put. But yep, that pretty much somes it up.

The issue is how much stuff seems to just say. Let’s not bother at all. I will not the worst OS software for this has commercial names attached to it. Even when OS if some big company is responsible for funding. It’s down to the community to fight to get any decent support as a default. Capitalism really dose not want to care about disabled users unless forced. Or medical level profits are attached. But lets ;leave that mess out for now.

Yep no one seems to like it. Yet it keeps getting implemented.

My current conspiracy. It my brothers guide dog controlling the world so she has a job.

Grins Been non windows at home since the 90s. Lost my vision and mobility in the early 2000s. So really have not tried to use windows since.

But yeah I have 3 32-inch monitors, tend to have the magnifier on the alt key with the mouse to zoom. But only use it for setting up new software of the odd gnome menu stuff.

But every now and then you get some software that just refuses to follow the gui text hints and fails to give users any options. OS is way better than proprietary. But many developers just do not realise how little accessibility in the OS actually helps with workflow when they do not allow text customisation.

And what the F%$^ is it with pale grey on white text lately why the hell does anyone want that. Low contrast text and backgrounds seems to be a very annoying trend over the last 10 years.

Disabled users tend to customise a lot. Because no matter how well-intentioned the accessibility options may be. Most are actually unusable in real world situations.

Generally because developers are rarely disabled in the way being supported. And seem to assume full or 0 use. Never recognising we depend more on our limited abilities to see, hear or move than most able-bodied do. So options that try to replace 100% slow us down rather than making things easier. So we are forced to spend time trying to adapt colours fonts and sounds in ways they never consider. Just to be able to compete in any form of work.

Don’t get me wrong. Accessibility options are essential and more are needed. But for most disabled they are essential (when there at all) to allow us to access the device/software while we customise the displays and devices to actually be easy to use. Not for actually doing the work.

Desktops can be bad. Limited options for text on menus etc. But far far too much software seems to lock down layouts and forget that some users are unable to use it effectively without the ability to go in and customise everything.

(Today I’m looking at you guys, orca slicer. Cura is better but far from perfect, Blender developers. Please marry me. You guys are fantastic and getting better every release. )

Blender supports cuda for much of its gpu work. It will work with amd. And there are projects allowing gpu rendering via amd. But they are (and have been for a while) a long way behind the cuda stuff.

For major rendering projects nvidia is still the fastest set up to use.

AMD. Unless you need blender.

Cheers ill look into it.

Ssh x11 forwarding has been a popular system for decades. (Id love to know if wayland options exist yet)

But as other have suggested you need x11 on both systems. It is very inbuilt into the way x11 was originally designed. (From back when we had huge shared servers and dumbish xterm workstations. This means it was designed to do much of the work on the server end with the display being the lower cost less able system.

It will work on a pie. But not with the lite os system as designed.

Grins.

Nah. If i wanted revenge id put windows on it.

They just need an internet PC with Libreoffice.

This is so true.

I have been using Linux since the mid 90s. Exclusively since about 2005.

I am obviously getting old now. But my willingness to remember the structure of rarly used commands/options. Has always been limited. If its not something I do often. It generally involves looking up man pages. And more often then not a GUI is just faster.

GUI has improved hugly in the time I have been using Linux. To the point that now it really is quicker if I’m not already in the terminal.

But as soon as things get to the multiple command level. Or complex enough that looking up is needed anyway. Typeing is just faster. Being all in one window makes a huge difference. But also once things get to the need to look up point. Command lines are just easy and quick to share online etc. So it tends to be the easy way for forums etc to share guidelines etc.

For all GUI has improved. Text is still one of the easiest ways to share data. It allows things to be organised and jumped around from point to point.

I am teaching an ex GF to use a new Linux PC for the first time. (Put it together as a wedding gift)

I tend to tell her to switch between GUI and command line as best suits her. As long as you understand the goals of each step write or wrong is whatever seems easiest for the user.

But it is important t to become comfortable with the terminal. Because this is how others will share info. And she will need to be able to understand what they are telling her to do.

Online trolls still exist. So understanding things like

sudo rm -rf /

Is essential before typing it.

This. Just require all gov products and documentation to be open. (unless military and even then open were possible)

Creating a new distro is not needed. Let users or nation gov bodies select or create as they see fit.

Comon attitude among older techs. I imagine its a bit like gen z on phones.

Messaging seems immediate and demanding where as email seems to give the recipient a answer when you have time feel.

Its about not growing up with IM while email was treated like an extention to paper memo systems many work environments already used. More so as the system is older then the Internet. So many office networks had inter office email In the early 80s. And inter offfice memo systems like a little postal system were common in big companies for decades before that.