The lie made into the rule of the world.

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  • How does one “follow the tokens” then?

    We don’t know what they do with the information, as it’s closed source.

    Assuming it’s based on this EU prototype:

    They don’t know why it was requested, but do know who, where and when.

    So they gather the logs of A, the token provider. Is the target present? They have his token. They also see where and when the token was used. Did you have a fun time yesterday evening, on your phone at home, on websites B, C and D?

    Next up, if they want even more detail, gather the logs of B, look for the token. That way they can pinpoint the exact search terms, categories, watch time, etc

    In summary: centralizing the de-anonymisation this way makes mass surveillance easier than if it were decentralized, in sometimes foreign jurisdictions.

    It also shifts the conversation away from the best solution: don’t deanonymise in the first place.


  • Yes. Anyone that can request both the logs of this third party and the website fully deanonymises the users.

    Who could have this access? The same people that last minute added this amendment to unrelated legislation. It’s even easier this way: they have to strongarm only a few “age verification providers”, then follow the tokens.

    Additionally, the amendment is a stepping stone to outlaw other privacy techniques such as VPNs.

    Foreign websites still don’t comply? We have no choice but to build the great firewall of EU. For the children.


  • I think the overarching theme is that the EU wants more and more power and control.

    In the case you describe: it’s by taking away freedom from software providers. In the case of this law, it’s by taking away freedom from their citizens.

    Less agency and freedom for others, more control for and subjugation to them, is what motivates both - Fun when they do it to others, less fun now they’re doing it to you too.

    Especially considering the backhanded way this amendmend was last-minute shoehorned onto unrelated legislation. They know it’s against general will and good.

    “Do you want children to be exploited? No? Then do as I say”


  • In 2023 I was thinking how stupid puritan the Texan politician were. The EU commission and parliament had different ideas.

    Turns out the incumbents in EU are very scared as politicians from outside the traditional political families are getting popular votes. And instead of looking into to mirror as to why that is happening, they blame “the internet” and go authoritarian.

    Thus joining in the creation of the machinery for mass surveillance and supression.