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  • Nora@sh.itjust.workstoMemes@lemmy.mlBut I love death
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    1 year ago

    I felt that way about your irrelevant trolley problem, not ethics. The point of the win win is that it doesn’t matter why they do something if the outcome is the same… Yes? I want people to stop exploiting animals… False equivalence to religion again. What a winner 🏆, you declared it a success 👏.


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    1 year ago

    say something very stupid

    call any argument against it smug

    We are both being smug right now because this argument is stupid.

    You did a poor job explaining then. You made up that statement. I’m asking how you can be empathetic to someone you murder and eat. Why would that be my only moral issue?

    Oh you didn’t like when I referred to animals as ‘someone’. Yeah so much empathy.

    Never called you inferior, captain strawman. Stop making shit up. And your rebuttal to the religious thing didn’t make any sense. How was that at all equivalent, or have to do with what I said?

    Gay people don’t make a choice, you do. And to relate them to your choice to harm others is insulting to their struggle. So gfy with this point


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    I’m not even going to argue science with you at this point because you are so far off of what even nonvegans who care about the environment usually agree on and you clearly have an issue believing or understanding research.

    Your trolly problem point is a nothing sandwich. Vegans get a win win in that refusal to eat animal products results in overall harm reduction in our real world. So it doesn’t matter whether or not they are rights-based or utilitarian vegans.

    You can deny evidence and think what you want but now you are really just arguing for your sake instead of being honest with yourself.

    If you are so into philosophy you would probably know your anecdote about your wife means nothing to me.

    Also YOU see preachy vegans, stop assuming what others see. I’ve seen more people go vegan and its better evidence for this than your wife anecdote.

    Again, JWs preach something no one sees. Animal agriculture is a real thing and its a false equivalence, Mr. Philosophy


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    No I heard your sentence and called it stupid and I still can’t believe you are going with it because it is laughable. Go on, explain how you are nicer to animals more than vegans are to you. You are still alive so we haven’t eaten you yet… Do you kill and eat people you care about?

    You said you are taking ‘abuse’ from vegans in the same comment you said you see nothing wrong with killing and eating someone. I can’t take your victim point seriously when you refuse to acknowledge the feelings of your victims.

    As your your gay friends thing, its a false equivalence despite what the words are. Gay people don’t have victims. Nonvegans do. I’m defining “bad thing” as an action that harms others. Being gay is also not a choice and is nothing like being nonvegan. You aren’t a fucking minority for being nonvegan. What a dumbass insulting argument.


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    junk science and fabricated propaganda… how? Besides the scientific consensus on the benefits of plant based diets on the environment, veganism is an ethical stance to stop unnecessary harm towards sentient beings. The only science we need is to prove that plant based diets do that, and they do. No I don’t accept your conclusion until you stop violating the rights of others.

    Proslytization hurts people.

    Hmmm killing vs proselytization, which is worse? We are asking you to stop physically harming others then you call it abuse, its silly.

    Also I’m definitely not pushing people away from veganism, I’ve been at this for a long time and the truth is you weren’t going to change your mind. I’m just providing opposition to your points for everyone who reads this thread.