DMVs are sometimes where states will dump troublesome or underperforming employees they can’t outright fire.
On the other end, the DMV is one of the places where employees have a job interacting with the public for sometimes-complex transactions. And, generally speaking, the public is dumb, unpleasant, and unprepared. Especially when dealing with low-level government beaurocrats who are telling them something they don’t want to hear.
Yeah, I like that. After being able to recognize and validate claims, being able to verify the validity (at least logically if not factually) of any conclusions drawn from those claims seems like a good next step.
I dunno. For someone just starting to want to think critically during discussions of when reading things, asking them to get serious in the academic pursuit of logic and argument theory might not be the way. For one, it’s probably just asking for them to get stalled in the sort of dunning kruger zone of identifying fallacies and stopping there.
Especially when such behavior is already endemic to the internet and many platforms have feedback loops designed to reward this behavior. Just dunk on 'em and move on - watch the upvotes and retweets roll in.
I definitely don’t want discourage OP from learning anything, but I do want to be careful in what direction we point a beginner.
I think maybe learning to find good sources of information and verify claims might be a better first step. That doesn’t give OP any shortcuts I’m discussions, which is good. Then they may begin to notice different patterns or forms of discussion and at that point they can start to classify them and learn about them if they see fit.
Agreed. OP should be working on critical thinking skills in general and not specifically focusing on logical fallacies.
Logical fallacies and argumentation theory in general certainly have their place. But unless you’re taking part in a debate club or otherwise getting really really deep into these topics, they may do you more harm than good in thinking critically and having productive discussions.
The reddit (and, previously, slashdot) obsession with logical fallacies has been almost entirely as a way to prevent critical thinking and end discussion rather than promoting either.
So my two theories are:
Either way I’d expect to see it soon.
The fediverse (and Lemmy/kbin specifically) is both smaller than reddit and more spread out. So you aren’t as likely to find threads with thousands of comments as you would on reddit.
Reddit is estimated to have over 500,000,000 monthly active users. Meanwhile, some estimates suggest Lemmy an kbin have about 60,000 monthly active users.
And when you make a post on Lemmy, you aren’t posting to /r/gaming, with 37,300,000 subscribers and 9,500 currently online. You might be posting to https://beehaw.org/c/gaming which boasts 6,950 users per month or https://lemmy.ml/c/gaming with 942 users per month or https://lemmy.world/c/games with 1,150 users per month. Those 3 large-for-lemmy gaming communities combined see fewer users each month than reddit says is on /r/gaming right now.
There simply aren’t enough people in the same space interacting with the same content to consistently have comment sections with the depth and breadth that you’re used to.
As the other commenter said, you can seek out large comment sections by viewing federated timeline and sorting for it, but there’s no guarantee the activity will be on posts you care about.
Broadly speaking it sounds a bit like Antitrust https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antitrust_(film)
But I haven’t seen it in quite a while so I’m not sure how well specifics line up.