No, see, they are the same thing. ‘Owning’ is just an agreement, and the corporation or a government or whatever can and will go back on the deal. Only protections are violence or security by obscurity.

Buying things is so fucking stupid.

We’re not a cult. Come on out to our compound and we’ll show you!

If they dont, they kinda don’t get to do their art. It’s a whole thing.

Id say ‘or they starve/die on yhe street’ but that’s what they get service jobs for.

Thats what studios are, though.

Thry don’t make the art. People make the art.

Nah. Id pay artists if i could.

And in fact do tip them pretty well at the jobs they take to pay rent when im in LA.

What we need is for parasitic creativity destroying shit stain ip-troll ghouls to get the guillotine, so they arent parasiting on every fucking artist.

We need a society that values humanity and art.

Because as is, there kind of isnt a reliable systemic way to support them. Capitalism prevents it.

Maybe lightly used.

So a little more in depth:

So, a little more in depth:

Im poor as fuck. So the option isnt ‘buy/pirate’ its ‘pirate or get nothing’. Fuck you if you think i should live without art.

The artists generally do not recieve profit when a copy is streamed/sold. It simply is not done; their unions are too weak. This is blatant corporate propaganda.

The entire mechanism to do that is fucked anyway, even if it were hooked up to something. I’m sorry, but i wouldnt deal with that shit show for free. Even new releases or classics have to be hunted down like cult films, and then even if i buy them, i lose them at some arbitrary later date. Music was the last thing i tried to pay on, and i just could not keep a cohesive collection together-at this point, if it’s not on bandcamp, i assume the artist doesn’t want money. And even bandcamp has disappeared tracks i paid for, reducing me to local backups. So fuck em.

I’m sorry. I really would love to support art and artists, but it simply isn’t possible to do that systemically within capitalism. There is no clear systemic option. Just ways to lick corporate boot and waste your fucking time.

although

I bet i do actually pay artists-cast crew and musicians at least-more than you do. When i dine out, rare as that is, in los angeles, i tip ~30% in cash. So i am actually supporting the arts, while you, my boot licking friend, are not. Youre supporting the corporate ghouls who feast upon them.

Theyre fine. Busses are fine. Im not going to shit talk buses, neither shall i glaze them whwn there are trains around.

Thats a pretty story, but completely unconnected to reality. If it worked like that, id be okay with it.

Also, when you pay for stuff, abd like it, and want to revisit it later you usually cant. And that always makes me feel like a fool. I don’t like feeling like a fool. I don’t like paying to feel likeva fool. I don’t like expecting a thing i like to be there then it not being there; that ruins my day. And the sheer fucking regularity of this makes. Me think it’s going to keep happening.

When you steal it, they cabt steal it from you, 'cuz they don’t know you have it.

Yeah but me streaming doesnt get them more paid, and it’s a fucking pittance anyway. Ive kniwn people who couldn’t really afford to live, working on projects that made ridiculous profits. Sorry, union too weak, cannot use to bludgeon me into the absolute shit show tgat is paying for media.

Not from consumption. Most of that money is for execs/investors,

Depends on file size, and if the train download is done.

Yes. Yesyesyesyesyes. Fuck yes.

The people who make shit normally dont get paid anyway.

I wouldnt download a car, but that’s only because im fanatically anti car.

Because cars are bad. There should not be cars.

At this point I’m done even asking.

I just end up feeling like a totally played dumbfuvk asshole every time I spend money on media. I’m just done at this point.

Even if i trust the people I’m buying from, i have no way to trust whoever their next owners are.

You get what you can take. Nothing more.

I have almost the same story but im afraid i will need to get you into a guillotine. This way, please…

Wait, you’re getting synthetic parts? Im getting ‘efficiencies’ and ‘weight reductions’ every few months. Had to give uo a kidney for my last gig, so they could ‘be sure i wouldnt drink on the job’.