Victor

found it not to be true after careful consideration

Jesus Christ bruh. What a tool.

Man, you just have some sort of chip on your shoulder. I tried my best to be nice to you but you’re just an asshole, I guess. Bye.

fellow European

Seems like you’re Palestinian. That might explain why you are possibly thinking irrationally about this add this is a very sensitive subject for you. But please try to act rationally. I’m not talking about the conflict. I’m pro Palestine/against war/conflict. But try to act reasonably. Stop putting words into my mouth and accusing me of shit. (Also Palestine is not in Europe. But maybe you’re an assimilated migrant to another country by now.)

And I like to have conversations with people who don’t bait others into a debate by playing innocent.

🤷

Well, let’s hope you don’t find someone like that. 🙄 Good day.

There’s no “innocence” without the implication of some form of guilt. Simple concept.

So you are seriously thinking I have some sort of agenda that I want to “bait Americans” into some kind of discussion where I get off (sexually?) on this. That’s the gist of it?

Have you heard of Occam’s Razor? Have you considered that it might just be the way I’m actually telling you? That I’m just curious about what Trump’s stance on Israel is, like I told you? Why is that so implausible to you?

You seem to be getting off on this conspiratorial thinking waaay more than I am, IMO. Because I’ll tell you, I am loathing this conversation with you. 😕

baiting Americans into the discussion

That’s… pretty much what I’m trying to do, yes. I’m trying to get an American (probably), who knows what Trump’s stance on Israel is. But other nationalities are also fine, just as long as they know the answer. I was just curious. But if it comes with all these preposterous accusations, I’d rather Google it. Otherwise I like to have conversations with humans rather than ask Google. It’s more fun. More social.

🤷‍♂️

innocence

What is there to be “guilty” of? What is this obsession of yours? I’m just confused here… I’m saying I don’t know Trump’s stance on Israel, and would like to know what it is, and you’re claiming I’m “guilty” of actually knowing that but I’m pretending not to know? Do you hear how absurd that sounds? Why would I do that?

Please tell me I’m misunderstanding what your claims are here.

In my case, it means I’m not trying to debate with anyone or sway opinions. And it means I’m not following statements made by American politicians very much. So that’s why I’m hoping someone who is kind and knows more will tell me. Someone already has, so I’m satisfied here. 🙂

If you still think I’m acting, so be it. 🫡

Are you really asking out of curiosity? The thread title is about not voting for Harris.

Yes, I am. I’m not a supporter of either one. I’m in northern Europe.

I don’t know, I’m just speculating. I’d like to find out though. Why is my curiosity under investigation, lol?

Very interesting.

But hold on, I was under the impression that the government donates military materials to Israel. What do they stand to gain financially or politically from supporting Israel, really? This is what I don’t get, honestly and genuinely.

Like I said, I’m asking out of curiosity, not to make a point, so this is not whataboutism. 👍 I’m a European citizen so I can’t influence anything, I’m just trying to learn here.

You’re absolutely right, in an ideal situation.

But as you also said, “we are talking about Harris supporters here”, so my original comment is kind of irrelevant to the topic of the post, probably. I’ll stand down in this context. 😁

Or of curiosity, what’s Trump’s stance on the genocide? Isn’t he equally pro/complacent? Or has he voiced his discontent with Israel in any way?

Then again, pragmatically, voting for the lesser evil of the two could make a big difference when voting for another candidate or not at all could have zero effect. ☹️

That logic should apply to Trump as well. 🤷‍♂️

I love the immediate “a-and”. But I read it as a confident “aaand…” which I think is way funnier.

Haha yeah. Love that guy btw.

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Do your work for you, you say?

Or is this a hobby project?

Nothing causes the electron to emit a photon exactly then at exactly that energy, it’s just something that happens.

I have to say this doesn’t sound very scientific to me.

Science would settle at “it’s just something that happens”? Certainly not the scientist in me, lol. Everything that happens is driven by something, in my mind. Some process. Even if it “appears” probabilistic or whatever. Seems like a probabilistic model is applicable to the behavior, perhaps, but we can’t measure or see such small things so we can’t really make any more detailed models than that. Isn’t that right?

So just because we don’t yet have a model for it or understand it fully, but we can describe it with some model, doesn’t mean we are finished or should stop there, IMO.

It’s like saying the dinosaurs went extinct after the youngest bones we’ve found. Or that they are exactly as old as the oldest bones we’ve found. But, we haven’t found all the dinosaur bones, or at least we can’t know that we have or haven’t. And we definitely haven’t found the bones of those dinosaurs that didn’t leave behind bones.

You feel what I’m getting at, kind of?