I often daydream about how society would be if we were not forced by society to pigeon hole ourselves into a specialized career for maximizing the profits of capitalists, and sell most of our time for it.

The idea of creating an entire identity for you around your “career” and only specializing in one thing would be ridiculous in another universe. Humans have so much natural potential for breadth, but that is just not compatible with capitalism.

This is evident with how most people develop “hobbies” outside of work, like wood working, gardening, electronics, music, etc. This idea of separating “hobbies” and the thing we do most of our lives (work) is ridiculous.

Here’s how my world could be different if I owned my time and dedicated it to the benefit of my own and my community instead of capitalists:

  • more reading, learning and excusing knowledge with others.
  • learn more handy work, like plumbing and wood working. I love customizing my own home!
  • more gardening
  • participate in the transportation system (picking up shifts to drive a bus for example)
  • become a tour guide for my city
  • cook and bake for my neighbors
  • academic research
  • open source software (and non-software) contributions
  • pick up shifts at a café and make coffee, tea and smoothies for people
  • pick up shifts to clean up public spaces, such as parks or my own neighborhood
  • participate in more than one “professions”. I studied one type of engineering but work in a completely different engineering. This already proves I can do both, so why not do both and others?

Humans do not like the same thing over and over every day. It’s unnatural. But somehow we revolve our whole livelihood around if.

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    Because i would take all the apples. And the carrots. And if you wanted some you would have to barter with me. If you didn’t, then you would not have all your needs met.
    Because people are not intrinsic good.
    If you fail to take that into account then your idea is flawed.

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      You really think an entire society revolved around bettering the human condition wouldn’t have guard rails against some random self destructive idiot going rogue?

      In general though, no one has the motive to do that (except a self destructive idiot, who we’d just put in rehab and hope they get better).

      Also you probably lack the means to take all the apples. The world already produces more than double the amount we consume. I guarantee you have no capacity to take them all.

      I’m sorry, I know you thought that was really smart of you, but it’s not a good look.

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        my neighborhood has multiples of me. we are now a group.
        Yeah sure. We cannot take all the apples out of cincinatti. But i can take all the apples from my town. Especially if i convice other people that are powerhungry like me. Narcisism and sociopathy exist, never forget that.
        And on what grounds would you put me in rehab? Because i did what makes me feel good?
        I take care of all the stuff nobody wants to do.
        I clean the drains, i upkeep all the things you use for leisure.
        People are lazy and would rather barter with me than to overthrow me. If they did, someone would have to wade through the shit all day.

        Kings and Queens did not have a real reason why they should be in power. They created their own reasons and used all their ressources to keep everyone down.

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          You surely have the Hollywood infested brain lmao

          And on what grounds would you put me in rehab?

          What about having terroristic aspirations? LOL. Trust me, no society will ever depend on you. You’ll always remain disposable

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            Yah, totally infested. So unresonable to think that history repeats itself and your imaginary utopia has flaws.

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              I don’t think you understand that no member of society will take it kindly to see someone trying to destroy their society. It is terrorism and they will stop you no matter what. No one looks at a random hauling a grocery stores worth of apples and thinks that’s okay.

              They want barter you for it. They’ll take it by force if necessary.

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                member of society will take it kindly to see someone trying to destroy their society

                Uhuh… When are we going to see these riots? The US has the 2nd amendment and no guns are being raised against tyrants…

                How do you explain republicans? People who write loveletters to mass murderers?

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                  You are asking why people aren’t changing a status quo. That’s different from changing a status quo to a much worse one.

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                    Do you think I will be the only bad apple? Do you have any idea how much crime we have that is not for the purpose of meeting someone’s needs?
                    Are you still in school?
                    The idea of utopias like you described always falls apart at the human aspect.
                    There is no way to just numb everyone’s brains to the point that we eliminate jealousy, envy and judt general “societal bads”. What do you do with the huge amount of religious zealots that claim apples for their religion? People who are judt power hungry? Drug addicts? Alt-rights? People who want money?
                    Politicians? Anarchists?
                    I am not the only group that wants all the apple. As soon as i take some apples for me someone else will become jealous and retaliate and satisfy their felt unfairness by taking even more. Are we just gonna kill or put half of the population in rehab?