• davel [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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    2 years ago

    I presume that by them you mean the Russian state. This sounds like BlueAnonsense.

    Have you considered that the NSA likely has full access to everything that happens on Starlink?

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        2 years ago

        I highly doubt the US intelligence agencies aren’t tapping StarLink. We already know for a fact that they were/are tapping Google and other carriers (if they didn’t already have actual backdoors made for them by the companies). We also know that the intelligence agencies also like to either flip employees or simply have their own people get jobs there and get access. Being honest, for all the bans on using Chinese equipment/devices for fear of spying (even when other governments were already analyzing and finding nothing). I don’t see why any other nation shouldn’t be doing the same for US stuff on their infrastructure/networks.

        We are historically not very trustworthy, and have been basically one of the top nations for getting into shit that wasn’t even made by us (along with Israel) like the Stuxnet attack. We accuse other nations of shit while damn sure doing it ourselves, like a cheater that then constantly accuses the other partner of cheating.

        Obviously any nation trying to use something like StarLink would be foolish to not use any and all methods for encrypting all traffic.

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          2 years ago

          They can tap all they want. His post is saying that due to encryption it doesn’t matter.

          I just hope they feed the gps coords of Russians using it to Ukraine.

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            2 years ago

            You think that was my claim? Moron.

            Namecalling makes you look like the moron.

            Why can the NSA do that? Do you know how it works? Because I do. Do you think StarLink traffic would be routed rhrough US-controlled servers to reach Russia? Do you think they can instantly decrypt VPN traffic and not the routing data?

            https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/may/12/glenn-greenwald-nsa-tampers-us-internet-routers-snowden

            Again, you are assuming everything and know nothing. You are basically (again BASICALLY) claiming a VPN is useless because DNS is insecure … which is true in the sense that DNS still exposes what you are looking at or communicating with generally, but in reference to compromising traffic, it is utterly and completely WRONG.

            What the hell does DNS have to do with anything I said?

            Even if the NSA targets them. Even if the NSA can crack custom applied encryption that A WORLD POWER would ABSOLUTELY DO, they aren’t cracking it instantly.

            NO shit. They’re doing blanket collection and cracking what is pertinent. My point is no matter what you do to stay anonymous and secure online, they can always track it back to you. That’s enough reason for them to plant evidence or just bag you and make something up later. Therefor encryption is inherently useless when the government can violate the rights it pretends to be protecting.

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        2 years ago

        Do you think Russia doesn’t have the internet or something? Do Russians not have cell-phones? What do you think Starlink actually is?

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            2 years ago

            Russia already has the ability to do everything Starlink provides, the difference is it is a bit more convenient. So saying something like this:

            Russia cannot be given StarLink.

            Is weird and acting like Starlink is some kind of cold-war superweapon that we have to keep from Russia makes no sense.