• PapaStevesy@midwest.social
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    1 year ago

    Idk, if you’re doing the same thing after your training that you were doing before, you either didn’t need training or you weren’t successfully trained.

    It’s an idiom, it’s not meant to be a clinical diagnosis. Like, yeah if you’re psychiatrist says it to you qnd tries to have you institutionalized, that’s obviously a problem. But I highly doubt that’s ever happened, certainly not in the modern age.

    Ultimately, it’s actually the same exact idea as “Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it,” but in less politically correct terms.

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      1 year ago

      Absolutely not. “Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it” is actually correct. It’s an intelligent thing to say.

      On the other hand, “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results”, is both incorrect and harmful. It’s also, very dumb.

      Lemme elaborate:

      1. When you train, you are actually doing the same thing. What changes isn’t what you are doing, but how you are doing it. And you can change that, because what you are doing it with, changes. Your muscles get more mass, tone, endurance, speed, etc. Your brain creates new connections, etc.
      2. The definition of insanity is actually: “the loss of the ability to differentiate between facts, that can be empirically verified, and fiction, which cannot.”. It’s no mystery as to why the access of the masses to the Internet is causing worrying increases in the insanity the of average person. People are losing contact with reality. Literally.
      3. Doing the same thing over and over, without an appreciable difference in results, while obsessing over it, can be tangentially related to insanity, since a sane person would be able to recognize the lack of progress, but that is conflating causation and correlation, and is harmful enough in itself to be called “dumb”.
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        1 year ago

        For the training, I’d argue that you’re not trying to get different results.

        Each time, the result is minor growth in whatever your goal is, be it strength, muscle mass, or endurance, etc.

      • ThaNookLmao@lemmy.zip
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        1 year ago

        think the meme has some grounds for truth. of course it was designed to be a dramatic speech for a scary character but it has some grounds to it: this may not be the truth but its how it feels. By doing the same thing over and over again and seeing no chance you go insane, and as such it feels like doing so is asking for insanity, thus the characters speech!

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          1 year ago

          Ok, that’s interesting. But you got it backwards: what drives insane in situations where you are deprived (of feedback, or progress, etc) isn’t the lack/inability of observation, but the fact that said observation is seemingly detached from reality.

          Basically showing a sane brain that it’s insane. That renders people insane, indeed.