My old person trait is that I think ‘ghosting’ is completely unacceptable and you owe the other person a face-to-face conversation.

  • DivineJustice@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    10
    ·
    1 year ago

    I refuse to use subscription software. If I can’t buy it outright, I either use an alternative or take to seas.

  • Hot Saucerman@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    8
    ·
    edit-2
    1 year ago

    My old person trait is that none of the things mentioned in the linked image happened on accident.

    They happened because capitalism doesn’t give a fuck about anything except bleeding as much money as conceivably possible out of each and every human.

    1. Apps allow companies to suck more data out of your device than a website, allowing them to sell more of your data and… make more money.

    2. Video games needing access to the internet is simply Digital Rights Management and a way to prevent piracy and… make more money. Remember, most companies view something pirated as a “lost sale,” not that you would have never purchased it to begin with. As Gabe Newell once said:

    “We think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy. Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem,” he said. “If a pirate offers a product anywhere in the world, 24 x 7, purchasable from the convenience of your personal computer, and the legal provider says the product is region-locked, will come to your country 3 months after the US release, and can only be purchased at a brick and mortar store, then the pirate’s service is more valuable."

    1. This one speaks for itself. Being able to be in control of the products you buy is freedom. Having products controlled remotely by a corporation is giving them carte blanche to make more money off of you.

    2. Removing accessible customer service means more people will just give up on trying to get their problem solved, effectively allowing the company to steal from people and… shocker… make more money.


    I agree, in theory, in respect to ghosting, but we live in a society that teaches us to be isolated, and doesn’t teach interpersonal skills unless the interpersonal skill is “Fuck you, got mine.” (which is, not surprisingly, a thing about making more money.)

    In other words, these aren’t old people opinions. These are “I’m not gonna let capitalism absolutely fuck me endlessly” opinions.

    • Aceticon@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      1 year ago

      At least in Europe I suspect those of us who grew up before neoliberalism took over in the 80s have a different take on the normality of the whole “being treated as a mark to scam money of 24/7” thing…

    • dotslashme@infosec.pub
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      1 year ago

      It’s specifically capitalism driven by GDP. Capitalism is bad but adding GDP is like removing any ethic and moral compass.

    • onlinely@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      Where do I sign up to buy the awards around here?

      Kidding…great post, tho

      • ShlorpianMafia@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        1 year ago

        That’s what the emojis are for. Unlike the shitshow most of us just came from, here it doesn’t cost real money to add a tiny picture of 🏅 to a comment.

    • KSP Atlas@sopuli.xyz
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      1 year ago

      In terms of piracy, I wonder how much could be prevented by having demos, like Factorio does

      • DrQuint@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        1 year ago

        Funny how Steam has been making sales and events around demos for a while (called Next Fests) and some games absolutely blow up out of nowhere thanks to them.

        Also some people think FF16 having a demo was some weird, oddball marketing move by Square Enix, except they have been making “try now, continue later” demos for games since Bravely Default.

      • Hot Saucerman@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        Demos used to be everywhere back in the day! I think they have a huge impact, because it’s a way to try to play a game without dumping all the money on it without knowing what the gameplay is like and if its actually fun.

        When I was a kid, DOOM having the first episode of the game available as shareware was huge and I used to walk to my friends place after school and watch him play until he would get bored and let me play for a while.

        From an old interview in 1999 with John Carmack about this very subject (emphasis mine):

        Carmack: DOOM 2 was explicitly a commercial release. We sort of half heartedly did some shareware distribution with Quake, but I think the industry has almost unanimously decided that the three or so level demo is the best test vehicle.

        A lot of people consider themselves to have “finished DOOM” when they just finished the shareware episode.

    • poVoq@slrpnk.net
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      That’s more of a “young person” trait though. For most of the history of media that could be pirated, buying meant going to a brick and mortar store and paying ridiculous sums like $10 per song on a music record. Pirating was nearly always more convenient.

  • richyawyingtmv@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    6
    ·
    1 year ago

    I have a few. And I’m not even that old (mid thirties)

    • People who talk on phone calls using airpods or similar look ridiculous in public, like they’re utter lunatics talking to themselves or their imaginary friend.

    • people who view life through their mobile phones are unfortunate and sad. Like…why pay money to go see a gig if you’re going to view it through your phone screen? I went to a wedding last week and I was one of the very few who was actually watching the procession with my own eyes rather through a camera app.

    • Not being on social media should be an accepted norm, not a fucking exception. This is an issue when dating, unbelievably.

    • m-p{3}@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      1 year ago

      I went to a wedding last week and I was one of the very few who was actually watching the procession with my own eyes rather through a camera app.

      Exactly why that during our wedding we made a PSA to not take pictures or videos, and we have a dedicated professional taking care of that and we’ll give access to those photos after.

    • Doherz@reddthat.com
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      The not being on social media one sucks when dating for sure.

      “How do I know you aren’t a weirdo, creep, stalker etc?”

      “You don’t and me having social media wouldn’t change that either.”

      Sure I could play ball and make myself a presence but honestly I’m happy enough being single that I’ll gladly dodge any lady who isn’t on board with my lack of social media.

      Just a shame that in a numbers game that a relatively high proportion choose such a non issue to be a sticking point.

      • Boozilla@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        I think the numbers may work in your favor the other way. The coolest / funnest / most interesting people I know have minimal or no social media presence. There are fewer of them, sure, but a much higher percentage of them are cool people vs the mindless drones who see everything in life as a photo op which they can post on their curated online persona’s webpages.

  • relevant_user_name@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    5
    ·
    1 year ago

    My old person trait is I shouldn’t have to scan a QR code for the menu at a sit-down where I’m dropping $100 on entrées. Give me a dang physical copy of the menu!

    • 𝘋𝘪𝘳𝘬@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      And then the QR code does not link to a menu but an app instead. So you need to install an app and allow weird permissions not related to the ordering of food for said app just to see that it only displays a static website in a Chrome custom tab.

    • Lyrl@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      1 year ago

      I might end up wanting a video, but there is so much low-quality content in search results. I can click into and out of six bad sets of written instructions in the time it takes me to watch one video far enough through to realize it doesn’t answer my question. Please, search engines, place more written instructions higher up.

    • altoverse@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      1 year ago

      i’m a little iffy on this one… if it’s something complicated/with lots of parts like how to repair your phone screen or something i prefer the video format, but for things like how to install certain softwares i totally agree with you

      • owsei@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        if I’m reading documentation for a software library, i want that written.

        cuz i can read useful paragraphs faster than how ppl talk

        but if it’s something highly visual, maybe a video is better

  • Senuf@beehaw.org
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    4
    ·
    1 year ago

    My old person traits are most of all posted here because I am an old person.

    But I’ll add that my old person traits is that I think a living wage should support… er… living, including a place to live, food to eat, paying for services, buying clothes, getting decent public health and education, and even have spare money for your free time (hobbies, eat out, theatre, concerts, etc.).

  • nik282000@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    4
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    I think cars should not be dependent on a touch screen for ANY of it’s functions (or really have one at all). They are more difficult to use than tactile buttons, distracting, and do not receive long term support from the OEM.

    What do you do with a 10 year old car that runs but the touch screen nuked due to age, firmware bugs or mechanical damage? Ford isn’t going to be selling replacement units 10 years later and I have yet to see an ‘infotainment’ system that has aftermarket replacement considerations.

    • Indie@lemmy.fmhy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      Totally agree with this one.

      I drive an old 06 and I much prefer using the the physical buttons to adjust things like music, volume, air settings. Even prefer using it to back up and having to use my mirrors and look back.

      My '18 vehicle is all touch screen, cameras,etc. While the a/c functions better and I don’t feel like my fillings are going to fall out from all the rattles and bumps, I find there is a real disconnect. I am even asked by others why I lean over and look at the back window when reversing.

      I work in tech and I don’t trust tech.

      • onlinely@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        1 year ago

        “If you think technology will solve your problems, you don’t understand technology—and you don’t understand your problems.” - Bruce Schneier

        • Aceticon@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          1 year ago

          Yeah, I have the same experience: if you’ve worked long enough in Tech you know its limitations and all the ways it can go wrong hence being a bit skeptical about “high”-tech solutions for things which work fine already with “low”-tech.

          Also, you’re well aware that deep down it’s still people having made all the decisions about how it works, only it’s people one level away from end-users (people doing stuff directly for people see how actual recipients of the services react and respond, people doing stuff which then does stuff for people, do not) so the design is often worse when there is Tech in the middle. This explains the fashion-following fad of using of touch screens in cars for functions that are interacted with when a person is driving and supposed to be looking at the road.

    • tatterdemalion@programming.dev
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      Yep. 100% agree. My new-ish Toyota RAV4 strikes an acceptable balance with touch screen vs real buttons/knobs. I don’t think anything critical is on the touch screen except maybe the equalizer. The touch screen isn’t massive either, but big enough to have a useful backup camera display.

  • TheLurker@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    1 year ago

    My old person triat is that this revolt against the major social media platforms is not unprecedented. I have seen it at least 4 times before in my adult life. Fuck I’m old. 😞

      • Spike@discuss.tchncs.de
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        1 year ago

        “Always Online” form of DRM is the most stupid thing anyone could ever do to a single-player.
        Ubisoft and EA Games come to mind.

    • Tehgingey@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      I’m such a weirdo with this, because I don’t mind owning digital games, but I really don’t enjoy reading books digitally. I have a massive library that my partner is constantly exasperated by ahah

    • quantenzitrone@feddit.de
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      1 year ago

      What do you mean by “owning”? Steam/EpicGames game and Amazon movie like owning? That would not be owning, but since they are commonly refered as such “owning” makes sense. It is important to differentiate this with GOG Game like owning, because GOG games are, once downloaded, completely independent of GOG and the Internet. Similar to that would be pirated Movies, and most pirated Software with the difference that you don’t legally own it. Like a stolen DVD lol.

  • lobelia581@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    1 year ago

    my old person trait is thinking that all of the above are extremely reasonable expectations and it’s a sad world we live in where most of those aren’t the case anymore

  • Brocon@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    When I buy an aplliance or something simple like a speaker I don’t want to have to connect it to the web to work properly. I want to just plug it in and use the function I bought it for.

    • blind3rdeye@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      I’ll got a step further and say that I don’t want anything to connect to the internet except my computer. And even then I’d prefer if programs didn’t try to sync settings or check for updates or anything else without me saying they can use the network.

      (I’m in a shrinking minority that doesn’t use the internet on their phone. I feel that somehow makes me even more of an old person than my parents…)

    • dingus@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      My water heater has wifi. Isn’t that the most ridiculous thing you ever heard?? Lol!!

      • Brocon@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        Friend of mine had his house switched to smart lighting without buttons. All controlled via WiFi. Then his WiFi broke. 😂

        • dingus@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          Lol! At least my heater still functions if the wifi is out. It just allows you to alter the temp remotely.

  • TWeaK@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    1 year ago

    I hate all websites that move things around as they load. If I see a button, that button should stay where it is when I try to click it.