I’m unemployed and my current laptop died. Is ThinkPad T480 still the goto and does it still work for software development? Thinking of getting a Framework but I don’t want to spend that much right now.
Linux runs on almost anything these days. I’ve installed Mint on Lenovos, Dells, and HPs without issue (even media keys all worked out of the box). As others have suggested, I’d probably look into used business workstations from the last five years to ensure you’ll get a solid five to ten years out of it.
Lenovo have progressively stripped away a lot of the features that made Thnkpads great. Rollcages, lack of a latch on the lid, steadily worsening upgradability, worse trackpads, worsening hinge design and poorer quality plastics across the board. T420-T430 would be my pick but I would also recommend used Dell Latitudes or HP Pro and Elitebooks
Check if https://freegeek.org/ works for you, they also have an eBay store
Looks like that site is dead and has being an AI slop domain squat.
Fixed the link, wrong tld, its .org Thanks for letting me know
I’d check Ebay for HP elite books, one gen old still has good performance, and fwupd pulls updates for them
Last I checked the highest spec of thinkpad t480 only has i7 8th gen with 4c8t, if you do a lot of compiling you probably gonna have to wait for a long time for medium to larger size projects, get anything with ryzen 6 cores or more instead
Yeah that’s my biggest concern
it’s fine but honestly there’s much better machines (performance wise) for better price these days, and the screen on T480 is usually pretty shit. i’d get something else if this is gonna be your primary machine.
Old Dells are cheaper and got great support
Gen 1 X13 currently go for 100-150 bucks, they are the best value but compiling time is gonna be pretty trash
If you want to go really cheap, you can get a used Chromebook for like 50€ and put PMOS on it for full blown Linux 😂
What’s your budget? T480/580 are still good but they’re getting expensive.
Not sure. $200-300 is the range where I would almost certainly get one. If it’s more than that now then there’s other options I’d need to weigh.
5825u laptops are like $300 for the same amount of ram and storage as a T480. They are much faster and quite efficient.
T480s are around the $200-300 range. I will be honest, it’s not worth it at that point.
I’m personally on a refurb thinkpad t14. Works great
For laptops, I’ve successfully run arch on dell, HP, Lenovo, and a Surfacebook, all within the last 3 years. The only issues I had were on one of the dells and the SB, the touchscreen didn’t work, which I had no issues with. I did have intermittent issues with the Lenovo fingerprint reader, but that laptop was about 10 years old when I got it, so less surprising.
I wouldn’t limit yourself to manufacturer at all, and I would recommend a business class model, but if you can get a consumer grade for stupid cheap, I wouldn’t say no to that either.
When my company cycles out laptops, they pull hard drives and then send them to recycling. We are allowed to take them. I had an older 2018 Dell and got a 2023 Dell to replace it. I just moved the nvme from one to the other and everything just worked. I didn’t expect it to be so smooth, but I literally didn’t have to do anything. I say that just so you know it’s simple to upgrade if you find a better option later.
Funny, I just posted about buying a t480. I wont lie and say its the latest and greatest, but its a good machine. My main reason was the Linux support, but as others mentioned, Linux runs on just about anything.
I think it would depend on the kind of software you’re developing. If you’re doing web development, I’d say you’re good, game Dev, maybe not. There are also different models with diffrent specs. Some come with 8 gigs or sometimes more, some have a TN panel or an IPS, i7 vs i5 so just be on the lookout for what specs you want/need.
Buy a different thinkpad (an older gen T/L/E 14) (but check the upgradability), there is too much demand for it for it to be normally priced.
I wanted one in ~2023 and couldn’t find one under 300€, I then bought a Dell Latitude 5290 with the same CPU (i5-8350u) as the T480. The Latitude is working well enough, Dells (Latitudes and Precisions) are also a great thinkpad alternative - keep in mind they don’t have a trackpoint (since 2018).
Web Dev and JS Python then sure, t480 is fine. But t14 or something a bit faster for c++ or Rust etc with compiles.








