• XPost3000@lemmy.ml
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    This feels like the equivalent of getting abducted by a superintelligent alien race, being put into a machine beyond your wildest comprehension, and then probably getting a treat and sent back home where nobody will believe you

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      i got a CT scan once and am a dumbass so the doctors and technicians might as well have been a superintelligent race

      however instead of a treat i got a giant medical bill >:(

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    The crossovers between veterinary medicine and pediatric medicine are a lot more significant than most people like to think about. The Venn diagram isn’t a perfect circle…but it’s close.

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    funny sad fact, if a person weigh 600 or more lbs, they sometimes have to use xrays/ct/mri in the zoos that are meant for larger animals.

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      No shit, I once had the chance to accompany a patient to an large aninmal hospital for an MRI.

      The problem: It was so far away that the patient needed to be airlifted. Which was far beyond the capacity of regular HEMS. So they called in the military and they send a fucking CH-53 cargo helicopter. These things are huge and loud. But cool.

      That was one interesting ride. Somewhat embarrassing for the patient (who was not in on weight level due to simply eating too much - patient had a massive and life altering orphan hormonal disease) but patient kept somewhat good spirits and the volunteer fire brigade did a good job blocking the view.

      Nowadays human medicine has improved - you can now simply use an open MRI with specialised gurneys. They usually can take more than 400kg, sometimes 500kg.

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        Does a larger MRI produce more data than a smaller one (same data density over a larger volume), or is it the same resolution spread out over a larger space?

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          It depends. MRI and to an even larger extent CT scans are “targeted” to an area. People are very very rarely scanned “totally”.

          E.g. you want to look at the cervical spine and therefore only examine this area. While you will also see neighbouring regions these are not necessarily full resolution (only if they can have an impact). So if the imaging run is being done for an area that is not affected much by the fat tissue it won’t produce more data necessarily (a cardio MRI is a good example). If you do a abdominal or pelvis MRI/CT is normally does include all tissue and therefore will produce more data.

          (Take this with a grain of salt though, while I worked inhospital for a while I am primarily a paramedic and more into repairing vital signs than radiology. While we have mobile CTs nowadays they are brain only and not my area of expertise)

          There is an exception for the real complicated cases like the one I mentioned, though. As we didn’t want to do the whole transport effort 4 weeks later again because another speciality found another issue the patient was indeed scanned almost completely" (with breaks in-between as that gets uncomfortable fast).

          (Sadly enough the whole thing was done 6 weeks later again,indeed, as the patient had suffered from an acute stroke which later killed them. Sad story,really. Never had a chance in life)

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      Obviously we should have bigger radiology machines. It wouldn’t be unreasonable to have them where you have a substantial fat population.

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        It would probably be wiser to focus on healthcare access and nutrition than to make extremely expensive and already large pieces of equipment triple size as standard when alternatives already exist.

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          I meant from the perspective of a rational person who cares about health, not an idiot that deserves to have its head chopped off in a guillotine.

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        And for multiperson scanning of compatible patients in a dramatically more cancerous pandemic-affected modern cohort with dwindling hospital infrastructure! ᕕ(ᐛ)ᕗ

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    Hats off to all these people keeping everything under control and helping these creatures. I cannot imagine how pissed off that lion or tiger would be if they woke up in the middle of a giant metal donut that makes tons of noise. I mean that takes a lot of courage. Most I will volunteer for is the bird, the fluffy burrito, and maybe the hedgehog. Pretty much anything that won’t eat me.

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    Do we also get a thread of pictures of animals getting CT scans with their consent?

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        Thanks for sharing. How does the fish one work? The dolphin I get because it breathes oxygen, but don’t all fish have gills? I feel like it should be in the water.

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          It can be out for a matter of minutes.

          Humans are just ludicrously overdependent on aerobic respiration, our brain metabolism is overcharged to the point of being broken.

          Most other animals have a lot more room to function sans oxygen, they’re more limited by stored energy reserves.

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            I’m in a yoga teacher training at the moment, and a biologist by background. It’s been amazing seeing how the different yogic breathing techniques impact mental and physical states.

            Those crazy folks in the Indus valley civilization made a serious study of this, at least 4,000 years ago according to current evidence. Some techniques, like yoga nidra (alternate nostril breathing for several minutes) have significant impacts on nervous system function.

            You can measure this directly with a cheap heart rate monitor and an app that can interpret and returns stats on heart rate variability.

            Those old yogis made a study out of exploiting our brain’s dependence on oxygen and developed some pretty cool biohacks.

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              Does

              alternate nostril breathing

              mean holding lefty closed with your finger for a few minutes then righty, or does it mean back and forth… surely you can’t do this without manual intervention, right?

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                Yes that’s the method. It’s improperly called yoga nidra, but the correct term for the method is Nadi Shodhana Pranayama.

                I’m not exactly sure what you mean. You describe the method that is used. One holds their own hand to the face with the nose between thumb and index finger. On alternate breath cycles, you direct the breath through alternating sides.

                Did I understand your question correctly?

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                Do you mean the syndrome that causes lightheadedness when standing up?

                I found a 2021 research article that shows 6 months of regular cardiovascular exercise improves the condition. Some forms of physical yoga practice are vigorous and get into the cardio range.

                I can’t find yoga-specific studies on POTS, but there are many on other conditions that include dizziness and syncope as main symptoms. That’s what a quick google scholar search revealed.

                POTS and cardio

                Yoga emphasizes attention and breath awareness during the movement practices. I personally have a job that requires a lot of stooping and standing. At first I was often dizzy standing up, but as my practice has intensified and progressed that has gone away completely.

                I don’t know, if your physician clears you for the activity, there are many benefits to it. Maybe worth a deeper look?

                And as for general awareness, hell yes. That is the entire focus of yoga philosophy, to quiet the busy mind. The scientific studies on that are plentiful.

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              Can’t speak for op but it usually adds cheek. Sans’ use was revived a few decades ago. It tends to alter one’s tone to sound slightly stuffier, like putting on a top-hat and monocle. I’ve also seen it used more randomly by younger people who recently learned its meaning.

              Edit: disclaimer and use case

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                I’m old, from when it was first revived, it’s slightly snarky and removes seriousness from a topic in the middle.

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          You’re supposed to hold your breath for a CT, so the fish is just fine for a bit.

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      I hate to read any post on the internet that involves both the words “animal” and “consent.”

      Human beings are inexplicable, contradictory species that don’t know how to view the world through anything other than our momentary feelings about things, and the universe suffers for it.